chapter 10,11

part 1

summery 

Chapter 10

Holden again considers calling Phoebe. Holden describes Phoebe: she has red hair, is very intelligent. Her only flaw is that she can be emotional. Bored and not tired, Holden goes to the hotel nightclub, the Lavender Room. He orders a drink, but the waiter asks for an ID. Soon Holden starts flirting with three women visiting from Seattle. He dance with three of them and he describes one of them a good dancer but thinks that they are morons. Holden soon becomes depressed by the women's obsession with movie stars. He eventually lies and says he just saw Gary Cooper, and one of the three claims to have also seen him. Eventually, Holden pays for their drinks, and departs.

Chapter 11

In the hotel lobby, Holden thinks about the summer that he spent with Jane Gallagher in Maine. Their families had rented neighboring houses, and Holden and Jane often played checkers and held hands. Once Jane's stepfather made her cry simply by asking for cigarettes. Holden comforted and kissed her. He comments that when he would hold Jane's hand he would be truly happy, and adds that she was the only person he ever showed Allie's baseball mitt. Now Holden remembers a bar called Ernie's that D.B. once took him to, and hails a cab.

part 2

Chapters related questions connection

Yes , of course everyone want to be famous in these days .and the reason why I want to become famous is that people will know you all around the world for your hard works. All these hard works arise from the passion inside you for a particular profession. Now a days everyone wants to be famous though, even those who does not have any positive goal. For example the three girls that Holden meet them in the lavender room were the types of person that loves to be famous despite of having any positive goal. As usual Holden calls them “morons”.

Proud is gratified, feeling honored, feeling satisfied or happy about a fact or event while conceited is having an excessively favorable opinion of one's abilities, appearance etc. In my opinion Holden is being a conceited guy .He is self-center, self-satisfied, and he thinks that everything has to be his way, that is why he is more lonely and depressed. Though he appear self-confident on the outside, but he is deeply skeptical about who he is and what defines him. Because he is insecure. In (pg. 78) Holden says “I started giving the three witches at the next table an eye again.” Holden give the three girls in the lavender room an eye, which means that he is interested in them, on the other hand he calls them witches. Which shows Holden’s conceited character.

part 3

Reflections

Holden seems to believe that only children Allie, Phoebe can understand him. Holden hates adulthood, but pretends to be older. He goes to the lavender room and tries to make connection with girls on the table. Again Holden successfully reveals the phoniness of others. But he is just as phony. His focus on other people reveals the extent to which he longs for companionship, love, and compassionate interaction to help him through a difficult period in his life. Holden’s memories of Jane are idealistic and un-sexual. He reference to Allie's mitt connects Allie to Jane. Holden thinks of them both in pure, idealistic terms. Holden really enjoy protecting and comforting Jane. “Practically sat down in her lap... Then she really started to cry…, I was kissing her all over—anywhere—her eyes, her nose, her forehead, her eyebrows and all, her ears—her whole face except her mouth”. This action of Holden actually does not show any sexual feelings of him for Jane, however it show more his care, love and emotions for Jane.

part 4

1.  Why does Holden seem so ambivalent about the adult world?

Holden is so ambivalent of the adult world because he tries to act like an adult. When he acts like one in front of other adults, they dismiss him because he's so young. In the Lavender Club in his hotel, he tries flirting with these 30 year old women. When he asks, "Would any of you girls care to dance?" (Salinger 70) they all laugh at him because they can tell he is just a kid. Holden doesn't understand it, so he keeps perusing until one of them dances with him, who ends up ignoring him because he's a little kid. Being unable to see that he's still a kid shows how he ambivalent of the adult world.

2    2. Why does Holden visit places he doesn't really like?

In the beginning of chapter 10, Holden stays in a hotel of New York city and he felt very solitary and nothing to do through his actions in the room.'' the one thing i hate to do is go to the bed when i am not even tired...... I thought i had go downstairs and see what the hell was going in the lavender room'' it shows he knows that place is a night club he cannot go and he hates to go due to his age. From my point of view, I think Holden goes to there because he feels lonely and solitary so he probably wants to chat with others and make friends with them. About the second guess, he wants to experience the life of adulthood earlier.

part 5

Media connection

Talkin' 2 Myself by Eminem

This is songs relates to Holden’s situation in this chapter .Holden is lonely and trying to find a companionship with anybody he meets and he sort of acts like nobody cares about his life ,and is always talking to himself and reminding his old memories .

Lyrics

Is anybody out there? It feels like I'm talking to myself
No one seems to know my struggle, and everything I've come from
Can anybody hear me? Yeah, I guess I keep talking to myself
It feels like I'm going insane, am I the one whose crazy?
(So why in the world, do I feel so alone?
Nobody but me, I'm on my own
Is there anyone out there, who feels the way I feel?
If there is, let me hear just so I know that I'm not the only one)

I went away I guess and opened up some lanes
But there was no one who even knew I was going through, growing pains

chapter 8,9

Part 1

Chapter 8

Holden left the Pencey and walks to the train station and catches a late train to New York. At Trenton, an attractive older woman gets on and sits next to him. She turns out to be the mother of his classmate, Ernest Morrow. He dislikes Ernest immensely and he exaggerate about him to his mother, claiming that he is the most popular boy on campus and would have been elected class president if he had let the other boys nominate him. Holden tells her his own name is Rudolph Schmidt, which is actually the school janitor’s name. She asks Holden why he is leaving Pencey early, Holden claims to be returning to New York for a brain tumor operation.

Chapter 9

At Penn Station, Holden wants to call someone but cannot think of anyone to call—his brother, D. B., his sister, Phoebe, Sally Hayes. So, Holden takes a cab to the Edmont Hotel. He asks the driver where the ducks in the Central Park lagoon go in the winter, but the driver is uninterested. From his room in the hotel, he looks out across on the other side .In one man dresses in women’s clothing, and in another room a man and a woman take turns spitting mouthfuls of their drinks into each other’s face. Again he thinks of calling Jane, but instead calls Faith Cavendish, a woman whose number he got from a guy. She refuses to meet him that night, but offers to meet him tomorrow. He doesn't want to wait that long, and hangs up.

Part 2

chapters connection 

In my opinion everyone have lied ,it can be for fun or for hiding a reality, however some people does not lie for fun or hiding a reality , laying still has become their habit and nature or may be enjoy it. In (19) Holden says "I'm the most terrific liar you ever saw in your life." He conforms to the audience that he is a liar. Furthermore Holden again lies and He confirms that he loves lying. First, he introduces himself to Mrs. Morrow as Rudolf Schmidt, using the name of his dorm's janitor. Then he describes her son as glowing, grown-up terms. (61) Holden, “Her son was doubtless the biggest bastard that ever went to Pencey, in the whole crumby history of the school”. He hates phoniness, but can't avoid it in himself, by lying to people, he makes himself feel superior. This gives him an excuse for his loneliness.

Additionally some people hang out with people they don’t like because of their loneliness, or she/her is the only option in the community .similarly many young people often find themselves struggling to find their own identity and place in society. This search for self-worth often leaves them feeling lonely and isolated because they are unsure of themselves. Similarly this is happening to Holden too. (68) Holden said "Would you care to stop on the way and join me for a cocktail?”. Holden is so desperate at this point of time that he’s also considering the cabbie’s company and offering to buy him a drink. Which shows how much lonely and isolated he is. In (71) Holden calls Faith Cavendish, a promiscuous girl recommended to him by a boy he met at a party, and tries to make a date with her. Holden wanted to meet her, just because he was feeling lonely and depressed as well as wanted accompany to have a conversation.

Part 3

Throughout the chapter we gained a lot of knowledge on Holden. In chapter 8 he was constantly lying and he has warned us that he loves to lie. He lies to his classmate mother, he cannot hold himself back from lying as it is his nature. Such as near the end of the chapter, Holden says “then I started reading this timetable I had in my pocket .just to stop lying.” Holden Need to distract himself from lying by reading that timetable. Although he is always complaining about phonies .actually he is lying all the time being a phony .in chapter 9 he has been so judgmental, careless and a horny teen. Besides that Holden was so  lonely and he  used talk with people he dislike .he takes off his red hunting hat twice and wear it again, which is a source of comfort.

part 4

Question 1(chapter 8)

At the begging of the chapter Holden puts on his red hunting hunt what do u think he took off his hat at the train station but keeps it on at school? How is this significant?

The beginning of the he puts on his red hunting hat which was a source of comfort for him because he had a bad fight with stradlater and left pancey with wet eyes. And at the train station he took off his hat which symbolize Holden’s individuality and uniqueness and he does not want to reveal it to everyone.

Question 2 (chapter 9)

Holden calls other people phony. In what way is he one?

He is very hypocritical and contradictive. He’ll do one thing and then say that he hates people who do the something that he just did. He often says that he hates movies but he usually watch movies .perhaps he lies a lot and he is very careless does not appreciate things.

 part 5

Media component

Call me maybe by Carly Rae Jepsen

This song represent Holden’s condition through chapter 8, 9. He was calling someone whenever he gets depressed, feel lonely and wished that someone calls him too and give accompany. From specifically, in the song Carly says, “here is my number call me maybe. “This is like Holden when he just wants to talk with someone that he can connect with. 

chapter 3,4,5

Chapter 3

Holden claims that" he is the most terrific liar one could ever meet". He admits that he lied to Spencer by telling him that he had to go to the gym. At Pencey, Holden lives in the Ossenburger Memorial Wing of the new dorms. Ossenburger, a wealthy undertaker, graduated from the school. Holden returns to his room, where he puts on that red hunting hat. He thinks about the books that he likes to read—he prefers Ring Lardner, but he is now reading Dinesen’s Out of Africa. He is interrupted by Ackley, a pimply student who lives next door. According to Holden, Ackley is a supremely irritating classmate who constantly barges into the room, exhibits disgusting personal habits and poor hygiene. Ackley does not seem to have many friends. Ackley further aggravates Holden by cutting his fingernails on the floor, despite Holden’s repeated requests that he stop. He refuses to take Holden’s hints that he ought to leave. When Holden’s handsome and popular roommate, Stradlater, enters, Ackley, who hates Stradlater, quickly returns to his own room. Stradlater mentions that he has a date waiting for him but wants to shave.

Chapter 4

Since he has nothing else to do, Holden goes down to the bathroom to chat with Stradlater as he shaves. Stradlater, in comparison to Ackley, is a “secret” slob, who would always shave with a rusty razor that he would never clean. Stradlater is a “Yearbook” kind of handsome guy. He asks Holden to write a composition for him for English. Holden asks about the date and learns that Stradlater is taking out a girl Holden knows, Jane Gallagher as she lived next door to him several summers ago and they would play checkers together. Stradlater barely listens as he fixes his hair with Holden’s gel. Holden asks Stradlater not to tell Jane that he got kicked out. He then borrows Holden’s hound’s-tooth jacket and leaves. Ackley returns, and Holden is actually glad to see him, for he takes his mind off of Jane Gallagher.

Chapter 5

On Saturday nights at Pencey, the students are served steak. Holden goes with Ackley and Mal Brossard into New York City to see a movie, but since Ackley and Brossard had both seen that particular Cary Grant comedy, they play pinball and get hamburgers instead, and heads back to Pencey. After the excursion Ackley back to the holden’s room and concocting stories about a girl he claims to have had sex with the summer before. Holden finally gets him to leave by beginning to work on the English assignment for Stradlater. Stradlater had said the composition was supposed to be a simple description of a room, a house, or something similarly straightforward. he writes about a baseball glove that his brother Allie used to copy poems onto in green ink.Several years before, Allie died of leukemia. Though he was two years younger than Holden, Holden says that Allie was the most intelligent member of his family. He also recounts that the night Allie died, he slept in the garage and broke all the windows with his bare hands. After he finishes the composition for Stradlater, he stares out the window and listens to Ackley snore in the next room.

personal connection the related chapters 

I don’t thing that I am bitter about life, as in a quote Mr. Spencer says “life is a game, one to be played by the rules.” Because in life we have laws made for us so we don’t act out ,or if we do so we lose the game, also being judgmental , negative, about everything makes someone’s opinion about life bitter for example Holden is a very judgmental and declares almost everyone he knows as phony, which means fake. He describes a Pencey alumnus and wealthy mortician, named Ossenburger, as phony when he gives a speech to the students. I never gone completely crazy and out of control since I know myself ,but I think  sometimes to avoid situations that are really annoying and irritating we need to shout or have to ignore it for example Holden gets annoyed by Ackyle with his bad hobbits and, he tries to ignore him. As Holden is describing Ackley, as He was...very tall round-shouldered...he was about six-four, with lousy teeth...they always looked mossy and awful. He damn near made you sick if you saw him...not only that, he had a terrible personality. So from that we can actually see that he is awful and hateful person. Holden’s personality is more revealing where he admits that he is the most terrific liar, and untruthful. And I think that he lied just to get out of the uncomfortable situation and he didn’t want any lecture from Mr.spancer .

Questions and answers to related chapters

    1.   What does Holden mean when he thinks that Stradlater “was a little bit like Ackley” ?

The comparison of Ackley and Stradlater, who on the surface seem to be quite different, actually reveals that they are deep down the same type of slobs that annoy Holden.

2.   According to Holden, Ackley and Stradlater are both slobs. In what way are they different as slobs?

Ackley is boorish, obnoxious student at Pencey He is socially inept and physically disgusting and his complexion is poor .Ackley is a guy who’s appearance is slop .While Stradlater is Vain, self-centered, and arrogant  is secretly a slob that always tries to appear clean .

3. Of what significance is it that Holden doesn’t want to throw a snowball at a car while he’s waiting for Ackley?

The idea of throwing a snowball, and the snowball smashing, signifies his inner emotions being let out. However, he is not able to destroy the nice look of the fire hydrant and the car, just as he is unable to destroy the nice facade of his life (He is a privileged rich kid). Instead, he takes the snowball back inside and packs it in tighter, just as he packs his emotions.

Media component

i hate everyone by get set go

 This song portrays Holden’s hate for everyone around him. And shows how he cannot stand all the people around him, because he sees them all as phonies. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y626eTivs60----------- link

Chapter one

Holden Caulfield the narrator of the novel begin the first chapter by a statement that he will not recount his lousy childhood, where he describes his parent as nice but as touchy as hell. He does not want to tell us about his autobiography, instead he tells us about the stuffs that happened to him around last Christmas .He also mentioned his brother D.B, who is a writer in Hollywood and describe him “being as prostitute”. Holden was a student at Pencey prep school in Agerstown, Pennsylvania. Holden begin his story in the form of a long flash back on Saturday football game between his old school Pencey and Saxon hall, while he was standing high atop Thomsen hill watching the game but mentaly he was not there. Selma Thurmer the daughter of the headmaster is also at the game, although she was unattractive and a bit ugly, but to Holden she seems nice enough because she avoid lavishing praise upon her father .Holden is the fencing team manager, where on the way back from new York Holden being a careless person he left the foils and other stuff on the subway which made the whole team furious. Also Holden wasn’t supposed to come back after Christmas vocation because he has been expelled from the school, as he failed 4 subjects .Instead he chooses to say good bye to Mr. Spencer his history teacher.

 "the catchers in the rye" means to save children from losing their innocence holden belives that to be the catche.its is very closly related to his struggle against growing up that's why he do not want to say much about his childhood..But if I could tell about my childhood I wouldn’t miss the opportunity .The experiences of my past are undeniable. I have spent it more than just a learning experience,unforgettable memories. He described his parents as touch as hell which make the readers believe that his parents are very strict and harsh which is probably the way that he views them.And typically he is also disagree to describe his brother D.B who was a short story writer until he sold out and went to Hollywood .the theme of Holden’s favorite D.B story “the Secret gold fish “it’s about a child who buys a goldfish and does not allow anyone to look at it, because he has paid for it with his own money. Foreshadows Holden’s consistent passion for innocence and authenticity of childhood .
The Holden's story take place somewhere in California in a psychiatric rest home.And the main action of the novel takes place first at the Pencey prep school in Agerstown, pennsylvania. He has been expelled from school because he flunked 4 subjects.during the match between his old school pencey and saxon hall he was standing in high to thomsen hill next to "crazy cannon "which shows that he was enough self confident and care less about the present .also demonstrate that he is a kind of saperated from the whole hall .I predicate that Holden will have an educational conversation and this will not be their last good bye .

1.      In talking about good-bys, Holden says, “I don’t care if it’s a sad good-by or a bad good-by, but when I leave a place I like to know I’m leaving it. If you don’t, you feel even worse.” What does this quotation show about Holden’s character?

Ans: Holden wants to make connections with people (or, in this case, with places), but to do so means to make an emotional investment that will probably end up depressing him. Here, however, he seems to decide that he would rather feel sad about leaving a place than feel sad about the fact that he doesn't get to feel connected enough to feel sad. 

2 .      How has Holden’s brother D.B. lost his respect? What does Holden mean when he says D.B. is in Hollywood “being a prostitute?”

Ans:D.B lost Holden's respect when he moved out to Hollywood to write movies .Holden hates movies .Holden says that he D.B become a prostitute when he changed his writing style in order for it to sell.